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MindChamber

Could Greed be considered a disease?

Posted by MindChamber Aug. 13, 2007 @ 12:06 PM EDT

Was Talking to an artist at the Con, and he has a chance to make it big with his Property.
A property he has loved and nurtured for years and years. I congratulated this Person and inquired about who would handle their property. When this person stated a certain individual that was also known for bastardizing properties,I gave this artist a warning. They might destroy your property.
The artist smiled and stated that the individual, knows how to "Bring in the money, so they can do pretty much what they want."

I found that pretty shocking as I consider characters I create as my kin, and would never release power over them to anyone else,but thats me. I'm not hot on money nor am I particularly greedy.

Which had me thinking about the subject of Greed in general........

Now that being overweight has been categorized as the disease, obesity. I started to wonder.
Why couldn't greed be categorized as a disease as well? A mental disorder that controls a person's conscience? We could call it. A.S.S. (Altruism Suppression Syndrome)
Haha, That dude has ASS!!
or maybe Pleonexia, which is a greek term for greed that already has a nice disease-y ring to it.

By now all of you know the conspiracy theories. Revolving around, well.. everything:
9-11, New World Order, Sex trade, Drug Trade. Human Trade,. Drug Companies, Oil Companies. Secret Governments. Green House effect. Secret Bank Institutions. I mean yeah.. The list goes on and on.

You see it works like Small Fish getting swallowed by the bigger one in a pond. Then getting swallowing another, till theres one fish.

One thing I never got, was the One World Order stuff, in association with the greenhouse effect.

Like. Why start Wars, take over countries, Destroy lands and people, for the Sake of Total Unified Dominance. Yet.. Throw it all away by screwing up the planet and its resources?

Does that Make ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER? Could these people really be this short sided and greedy?

I say to myself, noway. Makes no sense, if the planet implodes, then theres no money or land to reap from. So I was thinking, maybe theres something more?

Maybe... just maybe. they are trying to unify the planet because theres some unknown counsel of planets that we aren't allowed to be a part of because we still fight for dominance amongst ourselves. Maybe once we are part of this awesome council our new galactic partners will come down and fix everything once and for all? WHooo? SO maybe all this pain, and wars, and heat and horror is all for a better good?

Or maybe not.

I heard this story about this Old lady who used to borrow books from a local library and return them late. This Lady is a very famous widow of a Very famous general. Who also knew the president at the time. She lives in basically a Mansion, and her Husband's pension is enough to sustain her, and 40 families.
Yet, here she is, trying to duck a 25 cent late charge. She goes so far as to sneak the book back on the shelf, Claim she had returned it, and that it was the incompetence of the workers for not checking it in. She Does this knowing FULL well that, the worker she is accusing could lose her Job, and public libraries are already badly supported free establishments by the government. She KNOWS this, and yet easily risks, the welfare of an underpaid government employee, for the sake, of keeping her 25cents.

That, people is not simply a 'vice', thats a disease.

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Aug. 13, 2007 | 1:15 PM crazerfish50 says:

mind chamber..i love the fact that you ran about crap. i like to rant about political crap like this too XD
you make a very good point, by the way.

Aug. 13, 2007 | 1:18 PM MindChamber responds:

thats whats blogs are for, to get crap out of your system


Aug. 13, 2007 | 1:20 PM TheCriminalDuder says:

I can see where your coming from but, I disagree how greed should be a disease. Deep down all men and women are greedy. No matter how much they have already. It's just basic instincts that's all. Every person has a natural instinct to want more and more.

As for an alien council that has the power to save our planet but won't because they deem us unworthy as we do nothing but fight amoungst ourselfves and 'cause more and more destruction to our own homes. I agree. I'm a believer of aliens and U.F.O.s, I've always been a sucker for the documentaries and events about them. One event that still stricks me is that one when they had a large pole that was magnetised and when it snapped and fell back to earth hundreds of disked shaped objects were drawn to it. NASA claimed they were nothing but space debree. However why were they all the exact same shape and size then?

Anyway back to greed. Yeah basically, to claim something that exist in every mind as a disease it would be claiming that everyone in the world is mentally ill. Which itself is a possibility but, still hard to believe.

Aug. 13, 2007 | 1:29 PM MindChamber responds:

Well, everyone has fat cells in their body , but not everyone is Obese. and yet that is a disease.

Everyone has a right for self preservation, and there always should be a healthy level of self interest, otherwise you wouldn't better yourself.

But if you are a multibillionaire , and you stage a big battle that will kill 1000s of innocent people, all for the sake of reaping more money that you don't need. Wouldn't that be grounds for mental instability?

Updated: Aug. 13, 2007, 1:54 PM

Aug. 13, 2007 | 1:40 PM Ghosty22 says:

Nice essay... Good job.


Aug. 13, 2007 | 1:55 PM Bendo says:

Hell no, it shouldn't be a disease.

Now to read the post.


Aug. 13, 2007 | 2:00 PM Vortex00 says:

So basically the artist said take my characters and shit all over them eh?
Got me f'ked up.

But yeah, I've been called greedy before. Have to manage family owned apartments. But lots of the f'kers don't wanna pay rent. They want to stay there for free and leech of us. Now it won't kill us if a few of them miss some payments sometimes.. but it's a business... business is business pay of gtfo.. right? We have bills to pay too. Why let this guy stay here when someone willing to pay wants to move in.

Actually having said that, when you think about it some of the greedy people help make the world more convenient but it's true that others others f'k it up. Depends on how extreme it goes before branding it as a disease I guess..

I'd rather go to Walmart to get food, gas, all kinds of shit all in one place than go to individual places everywhere XD.

About the planets resources.. it's eventually going to run out anyways, esp, at this rate -_-; Unified Earth. doubtful... hate to say it.. unless genocide is involved. If there are some other life watching us from above the're probably like "fuck that shit I'm going down there.."

The old lady does have some issues though she really is sick. 25 cents? It makes me sick even.


Aug. 13, 2007 | 2:35 PM Farplane says:

Well, not to suck up, but I completely agree with everything you just said, people who treat shiny lifeless stones and thin pieces of lifeless paper as if they were a sibling sicken me >:(
Why is gold even valuable in the first place, and also, why did anyone EVER start the money system? It only caused trouble, we should've just stayed with trading at will, you didn't see people getting in gunfights because one person said that they didn't want to trade their crap with someone elses.


Aug. 13, 2007 | 3:54 PM Alpharhino says:

Never thought of greed as a disease. I do, however, disagree. I feel that America puts the label of disease on a lot of behaviors that are influenced by our national psychie to justify them. Obesity being a good one. Any disease you give yourself isn't a disease in my opinion. I'm fat and I don't think I'm diseased, I think i eat too much.

Well thought out and interesting though

Aug. 13, 2007 | 4:01 PM MindChamber responds:

But if being fat could be labeled a disease, why not something like greed, thats actually is harmful to others?


Aug. 13, 2007 | 5:44 PM AniGen says:

I can see your point.

Well, think of it this way. Greed is considered a "deadly" sin or something, along with wrath, lust, pride, sloth, envy, and gluttony.

Now, there are of course diseases that CAUSE a person to act on those temptations, such as Tourette Syndrome causing anger/wrath in an individual, or Sexual Compulsion (addiction) causing lust.

On the other side, there are just specific habits in individuals causing them to act on such temptations as well, an example being sloth and gluttony. There are people who just eat because they're bored, miserable, or nervous. Although I don't think this is actually a disease, it's still a negative tendency. In addition, sloth can be acted out by people who are just generally lazy and like to sleep all day (me for example.)

The point of that being those deadly sins aren't diseases, however can be caused by diseases as well as being able to cause diseases.

That being said, let's go back to greed.

Deep down, I believe everyone has a little bit of greed stuck somewhere or has been greedy in their life. It is impossible, unless you're some kind of holy man to have never been greedy at one point. It all stems from the laws of property and ownership.

Although saying someone has A.S.S. would be pretty fucking hilarious.


Aug. 13, 2007 | 6:00 PM thomtomw says:

its a weird subject, i think its got a lot to do with motivation, a lot of people who have gone from rags to riches often don't want to go back to rags again, and they will do everything they can to stop that. obesity i think is different, people start eating for different reasons, but they cant stop eating because they have the wrong state of mind.
as for the one world order thing, i think humans have too many petty things to squabble over, so if you're hoping for alien visitors....its gonna take a while.


Aug. 13, 2007 | 6:25 PM jackster20 says:

wow


Aug. 13, 2007 | 7:00 PM KupaMan says:

I've never understood the thirst for power. Greed for money is all about the power it gives. If you can afford what you want, I would think that would be fine. I don't understand people like the ENRON crooks who are already rich and just want more. Politicians I think are the same way. So few are strong with their beliefs. They just fit what they think will get them elected.


Aug. 13, 2007 | 7:24 PM Ratmeat says:

I like the spirit behind your idea, but I don't think it's practical.

Body fat is a concrete thing; we have objective, accurate ways to measure it. Greed is a purely abstract concept. You can point to certain acts and attribute them to greed, but that's always going to be a subjective assessment. How do you objectively measure someone's greed?

Once you can measure someone's greed, how do you determine how much is too much? Then, what do you do about it? Monetary penalties for the morbidly greedy, for instance, will simply encourage them to accumulate even more stuff to make up for the penalty (and maybe even more on top, since they've "paid their debt to society" for being greedy!).

Aug. 13, 2007 | 7:32 PM MindChamber responds:

Anorexia is not a concrete thing, how can you measure a fear? How much fear of food do you have to be before its considered Anorexia, I tend to shy away from really greasy foods, does that make me Anorexic? Anorexia isnt concrete, and yet it is a disease. I think someone could be diagnosed with A.S.S. iit would not only be based on the amount of money or power they already have but on the willingness to allow harm to others in the pursuit of obtaining more!

Updated: Aug. 13, 2007, 7:39 PM

Aug. 13, 2007 | 11:02 PM KillerClam says:

lazyitis is


Aug. 14, 2007 | 1:38 AM Frolikyn says:

Interesting point MC ...

Some people may think that greed just affects the person itself but it comes to actions of that greedy bastard when bad stuff happens.

for example ....

Some guy in the fancy expensive wood business gives money to the right ppl so he can go and chop down half the amazonian forest .. affecting everyone living there just to get more RIECH.

btw... i would totally buy ur airplane idea.
Although my dad's a pilot i have that "turbulence+rain+airplane=mayday we are dead" thoughts when i board a plane.


Aug. 14, 2007 | 9:01 AM Fleek says:

nah


Aug. 14, 2007 | 10:11 AM Krinkels says:

tl;dr.
but seriously... it's just people doing what people do. Which why I have a failing hope in humanity in general.


Aug. 15, 2007 | 8:23 PM kloneone says:

w3rd... nice picture


Aug. 16, 2007 | 6:40 AM ZekeySpaceyLizard says:

it'd be wonderful if the world no longer ran on money

Aug. 16, 2007 | 4:42 PM MindChamber responds:

yes, the barter system would rock.


Aug. 16, 2007 | 4:46 PM keatnisher says:

now do u know who i am? and no it cannot unless you want people to make it a disease cause some people can

Aug. 16, 2007 | 6:04 PM MindChamber responds:

no i dont know.

ah well


Aug. 17, 2007 | 12:33 PM Luis says:

ehh i dunno this sort of reminds me of McBeans spoof on the sharks and not sharks situation. I think part of it is human nature to be very cutthroat and agressive survival of the fittest attitude. On the otherhand its obviously very easily to go from being driven to being overzelous.


Aug. 21, 2007 | 1:04 AM The-Swain says:

Point taken, though if I do actually start hearing you say "that dude has ass", I will be more worried for you than empathetic :(


Aug. 21, 2007 | 4:50 PM Ronald-McDonald-LoL says:

That told lady sounds like a bitch.


Aug. 22, 2007 | 8:39 PM Flyborg says:

Most great wars are started by mad men who hear voices.
I don't think I'd examine the "logic" behind controlling the world while destroying it. ;p

Some people are greedy. It's that greed which drives one to reach the "top" of any control system. It is therefore inevitable that if someone is in control, they're probably greedy, and don't consider costs which aren't there own.


Aug. 25, 2007 | 4:09 AM ForionMasta says:

Yeah greed is actually a sub-disease as classified by some scientists.
I'm greedy as hell with my CPU but that's it. So I might have a small trace of this "sub-disease." Well what IF it were put in there with obesity? Walda think of that? People'd would be putting up money for a cure. That's why they don't categorize it.
Greed is good bad but read my page and it'll tell ya all you need to know about human behavior.

Aug. 25, 2007 | 8:57 PM MindChamber responds:

"""wha? I'm s'pussosed to put somethin' meanin'f'l 'ere? well I...
DON'T REALLY CARE ""

ya.. that told me everything I needed to know alright.. haha loser


Aug. 27, 2007 | 5:33 PM JUMIITS says:

i dont thing it is a deasease. i thing it is the human nature. Well, atleast for most of us it is. For others , the others just know what are they doing, thats all.


Aug. 29, 2007 | 6:45 AM compactcheez says:

i agree wut ya bro,....

some peeps call alchoholism a disease dont they? isnt greed far worse?
gets me thinking of my last job... my boss gips me 20 hours of ovcertime, but yells at me when i do something that costs the company under a buck... me being the most underpaid employee there >.> (the new peeps being hired were gettin 2x as much as me, oh well... im not living on my own i dont need any cash as of yet)

i see people buy expensice crap for themselves all the time... like my cuz buys a grand in shoes (im serious) on a whim, but freaks out when she had to pay a $50 power bill when she was living with her fiance...

i (un)officially declare greed a disease (yes im greedy ill admit, its just to the extent that makes us different, do u nuke a diff country just so u can feel safer with no real just cause? or do eg. send a negotiator and diplomats who arent corrupt bastards to work out a solution benificiary for both parties? even though nuking is easier...)
it infects us and is uncureable, some will always linger
it can be contageous
once you have it, it changes you entirely, and causes nothing but harm, to yourself and others.
no real good can come from greed (BUT... that brings up the idea of wut is better, communism or capitolism? i aint no american, i aint gonna touch that with a stick strapped to a robot conrolled with a remote control from mars...)

k i felt like random ranting :P

oh btw, i love your work bro, plz keep it up. im greedy and i want to see more, its bcuz of peeps like you i come to newgrounds, so plz dont change that.

Aug. 29, 2007 | 8:48 AM MindChamber responds:

awesome response man, and thanks.

and do worry I plan to post crap on NG till I die, period


Aug. 30, 2007 | 2:17 AM Orange-Jews says:

fuck you


Aug. 30, 2007 | 3:15 AM SardonicSamurai says:

It's true; there are quite a lot of greedy people in this world. Thought it is unfortunate, there are those on the other end of the spectrum that are willing to do quite the opposite.

It's nice to know that there are still good people in this world; a yin and yang. But why is it that we always here so much more about the "yin" of things? If the Yin-Yang is a precise balance of two opposing forces, such as good and evil; greed and charity, can it really accurately describe the world we live in today?

From the looks of it, the Yin is devouring the Yang, and it's sad to really see how Evil, greed, affairs, murder, lies, and etc are more abundant then anything. Or perhaps we are so focused on the bad things in this world, that the Yang becomes hazed and hard to see?

I don't know, that's just how I've always seen it. I know there are some truly nice people in this world, and unfortunately, I can't say that I'm the perfect person either, though I'd like to think of myself as an above average person trying to better himself.

lol, I made a blog in your comments ^_^

Sorry, it's just been a long time since I've seen something on newgrounds I'd like to put my two sense into.

Aug. 30, 2007 | 5:21 PM MindChamber responds:

your right, I guess there are alot of people out there that are Truthful, loyal, honest, etc, and don't get the same recognition.

Probably because they don't speak up enough.


Aug. 30, 2007 | 5:59 AM compactcheez says:

ya we got teh yin n yang... but i wudnt say that thier represented equally....

its easy to see and find out sometin like near 50k peeps dieing EACH DAY to starvation (sometin close to dat) but whos gonna go out of thier way to find out a man stopped some1 from launching a that could start a nuclear holacost (no idea how to spell it...) and saves potential billions of lives from an all out nuclear war.

look at terroism, a few people die and every knnows, wow big deal, so some1 blew up a plane and your all afraid, suck it up and take a train then... wut about the fact that so much has gone into to safety of flying due to the fact that so many people fear such a thing?

people will rant about customs stopping you a few mins (stopped me for like almosty an hour, ui was flying through from canada to the states, my bro i was flying with got right through, oh well....) just to make sure your not gonna kill so many people.... and cause global fear more than anything. thier doing a good thing but who views it that way? whether they say it or not, what teenager kid really wants cops stopping them from having fun, possibly preventing them from becoming mass murderers bcuz they feel invincable? more good, but the police dont get thier long due respect and recognition.

eg. 'those fucking pigs caught me drinnking and smoking pot and brought me home, and cuz they told my parents they absolutely freaked at me... i just wanted to have a lil fun'

granted i have no beef weith kids who smoke up and drink up, good for them as long as it only harms them, but the cops may have prevented them from becoming potential heavy narcoticcs dealers, or the such ()i know that viewing cops as something to be afraid of is generally a bad thing, thier here to help, not to scare us into cleaning our shit up, even though the occasional persdon does need that, fear being one of our primal instaincts, our survival mechanism, somethin g we should always take into consideration, if your ever scared, think.... 'why am i scared, is it for a just cause?')

the bad often masks the good, it is much easier to see whats infront of us, instead of the stuff we actually have to search for. the media for one, some1 kamikaze bombing and killing a few peeps will make more headlines than some1 donating to charity and say, rebuilding a thousand houses after a hurricane, or some1 developing new hurricane prevention measures...

reading in the news that its a happy goody tooshoo world is fine n all... but it pretty dull pretty soon...

THATS IT EVERYBODY, BLAME THE MEDIA, ITS RIGHT INFRONT OF US AND ITS PRETTY DAMN EASY (i know i weill...for now, til video games become a bigger blame then ill move to sometin else other than media or video games...lol)

i have no idea why im typing this, its 3:30 am for me, sadly ive only bin up for 12 hours, and i got nuttin better to do... well i do but im just to lazy to do it... as evberybody else, im just lazy, and i do this partly bcuz its an very easy way to calm down the beast inside named, the need to rant, and you all know u have a lil of dat in you to, just some of us >>>me<<< r semi proud of it... us weird sickos who have no life flaming on NG for the hell of it, mainly cuz we have n life and make no attempts to get one, other than a, persay, cyber life... my best friends i only know online from uyears of chatting, in RL i move to often to get to know some1 that well... buit as for the internet, i meet these peeps, and confidence is no issue...

how many 10 year old kids (me a bit back) flame shit and yell.... U FUCKING FAGS BURN ION HELL etc.etc. but qwud NEVA say that to some1 in RL? >>>me<<<

hell even in RL i like to rant on (uselessly) but i wudnt dare go to the extent thast i do, say here, unless i know them on a very personal level, and i dont know any of you... why? you dont live myaddress or real nam,e (hopefully) so if i say sometin bad, u cant do shit, HAHA N00BZ0R$

greed isnt the only disease, though i say its far worse than any cancer, and probably the worse disease out there since there's no known cure as of yet, but what about the idea of yin n yang? the idea of the internet? the net can b a disease, its changhed who i am, i used to a active lil kid who hated TV, im serious, i used to b outside 10 hours a day if i wasnt in school...even then id spend most of my time outdoors...

even then that gets me thinking, the net, our greed, our lust, our plain out ridiculous want for recognition, for power, to be some1 (self esteem generally) is outragous, why dont we move on, forget about the world wide web, and get a life? no, we're addicted\, ya bunch of junkies, and of thoise whom admit, thier prob damn proud of it. our greed to be happy now, to be content now, is eaily fulfilled by the WWW, even though physical activity is better for our bodies physically (and possibly mentally) but say, eg. for sports...,

in a sport, such a team, like in soccer, of football as some may same, some consider winning thwe only importasnt thing (i know its may b considered wrong, but admitdently, i do, and as do most peeps, as long as thier human beings...) so u can only achieve total satisfaction IF your a winner... you also have to be a winner in finalcial means, in your love life (PC peeps with a wuv life? maybe but have they even met thier lova face to face though?), while with the WWW all you have to do is flame random useless forums like the NG ones and of well known peeps like mind chamber 1<3<37 and tada, insytamnt recognition, so much easier...

why am i srti;ll ranting? bcuz i can, plain and simple. our want, lust and greed to do anything we please is also somewut satisfied with the WWW cuz you can do so much more and get away with it (unless your making child pr0n, then u shud get a landmine shuv'd up your ass, fporcing you to neva sit down our die...)

greed doesnt only come in the form of currency, becuz if i say sometin like wut i just did and i offend some child pr0n maker who views such a act harmless (eat molotovs bitch) im still being greedy cuz my actions do harm some1 else mentally, and i dopnt really give a damn...

well im gonna stop now cuz i cant think of anything else to seriously ran about, me and my one track mind and always has 10 different thingson it at the same time...

goodbye

i wuv u all...
and u all wuv me... well most likely not unless your on ectasy, remember kids, always know your dealer for gaurenteed clean dope :P


Aug. 30, 2007 | 5:59 AM compactcheez says:

hot damn... i just realized how long that was >.>

oops

Aug. 30, 2007 | 5:25 PM MindChamber responds:

good rant dude.

thats the point of these blogs, to get stuff off your chest.


Aug. 30, 2007 | 4:07 PM Sarai says:

I am greedy for a few things. Respect, love... Then a monetary thing it has to be said, I want a house and I want to support my family with cash from the West... Ho humm.

I wouldn't sell out my beliefs for cash, but still... Doesn't everyone want to earn for the sake of someone or something else?

I am also greedy for a finished picture from you :p

Aug. 30, 2007 | 4:45 PM MindChamber responds:

when one does for the sake of others, thats never greed.

and yes very soon my dear :)


Aug. 30, 2007 | 11:21 PM compactcheez says:

...
more tha n anyting i did this bcuz of boredom >.>
wut i find blogs good for

yes im a greedy bastard, im going in a f40 racer on a circuit while i have i many poor old neighbors who need to do something b4 they die, ghot nothing to show for thier lives... >:( (get agnry)

i want a nice house, i want a nice car, i want ATLEAST a half mil a year income (who doesnt these days)...(pref taxless)

i also dont wanna pay taxes, i dont live independantly yet and im only 16 living with my parents and a bro, i lose 15% of my pay checks to union fees and another 15% to taxes, oh well (but im to lazy to file for a tax return)

tax returns... now that has me thinking (im sure i can do it...)

saooo many people dont want to pay taxes, but, complain when city works doesnt fix a sewage problem, or when a terrorist get sin a country when nobody wants to pay up for the higher security (why do i keep talking bout terrorism? im a canuck, we generally dont have such a thing, xcept wen a american says our beer sux, that strikes the heart of every canuck everyuwhere and makes us wanna start investing in nukes, ummm... did i just say that? im anti nuclear... or atleast i think... maybh we'll make a clean bomb, just wipe out a country with no real negative benefit to us other than losing canuckada's main sorce of income, they buy all our oil, all our other comidities and wuteva else us crazy canuck hockey wuv'n beer guzzlin bastards do, iunno, mine diamonds and make fun of americans by lawyer jokes, targeting CA)

for the greater all... we need taxes in a sense to run this country, BUT nobody wants to pay them. b happy americans, canada is a bigger cvountry with 1/10 the population. that 1/10 of the people (excluding saskatewan from the tax payers >;) to 'try' to run the country.

that gets me to the thought nof greedyness in.... patriotism... lata lol

we want whats best for ourselves, not whats best for others, whether we admit it or not, act upon it not, or even realize it about ourselves alot. ive spent years in the middle of knowhere with only my bros, its gives u time to get to know yurself.... sadly
how much of a greedy cruel bastard i can b.

i noticed ealier today, i was walking my with my bro for the hell of it just talking, n he say a bird, the bird had a broken leg (wtf, hoe does a bird break its leg? issues with the landing gear or sometin?) and i just kept walking, while he was going on about calling the spca and all that (he thought it had a broken wing to, but realized it wasnt upon closer inspection, just the birds leg) and i kept saying, dont wry its only 1 bird, even as i say that, im thinking of how cruel of a thing im implying, that to just leave bhind and ignore the broken, the harmed, the ones truly in need.
im no animal lover myself, more of a haterreally, but this still gets me thinking. he cared about sometin that i find utterly useless, just a waste of time.

being greedy in another way.... WTH why am i still ranting, i need a hobby, or maybe for some friends to finally get on msn ^_^

oh ya patriotism, it can be good and bad, for the residence of the subsiding country, and for all others out there.

honestly, every crazy canuck bastard (or at least the ones in western canuckada) loves to make cracks at americans, i do it all the time. i found some pretty 1337 lawyer jokes wen i went down to CA, but i had fun overall...

as said by ones person alrdy, its basic instinct to want more no matter wut you have, thats called a higher standard of living, though its not always a higher quality... its also basic instinct to love wuts yours more than others just cuz we can b greedy, the greed n lust to want to feel better...

in the case of patriotism (i hate spelling that word >.>)
greed in the way i see it anyways, is that scenario on just a larger scale, to think, say, german cars r better (i just like german n other ueropean cars myself) no matter wut, and to buy even a perice oh shit german engineered car (does such exist? lol) thnking its better, helpinmg another big coorparation bcome just richer while the deserving ultimatye in quality (toyota for just an example, have a toyota camry that meh mom bought 9 years ago and works like a charm still, though partly bcuz my dads a mechanic) and a 1/10 the price that'll (possibly) use the profit to better the company and make more affordable, more reliable, just plain ut better forms of motor transportation (stuff like investing more into hydrogen fuel cells, making hydrogen fueled vehicles more affordable cuyz they b just damn expensive in comparison) that'll help save our ecosystem, and with the money flow instead of just stashing billions away in the bank, overall improving the economy at the same time.

wow, that was completely 102.3% i cant believe its not butter useless (i wanna ry dat stuff sometime, ill do it for the fun of it soon :P)

see sometin else i did in boredom to attem,pt at fulling my greedy want to satisfy my nearly non existent sanity (went to a shrink wen i was like 8, all for good reason bcuz the teachers in my school thought id b homicidal... jeeze they got it wrong, its genocidal >:)

rave ended

nuff said (always wantyed to say dat)

cock joke


Aug. 31, 2007 | 1:13 PM Masterswordman says:

I think the human race is very shortsighted. They only see what they they want, now. Not what will happen. People believe there is a past and present, but that future is just an illusion to them. People don't believe in consequences because they simply don't want them to happen. And they believe what they don't want to happen, won't happen and thus do nothing about it.

Thereby establishing, to them at last, that ignorance really is bliss.


Aug. 31, 2007 | 3:13 PM drussthebritgit says:

Holy crap I totally agree! I remember saying somewhere else that until we can stop fighting amongst ourselves we will never find peace, like children fighting over who wants to play with a toy, you have to mediate a soloution (sharing).

As for calling greed a disease, there are several 'faux' disease/disorder out there the government are apparently retarded enough to believe. One guy over here in the UK is getting disability benefit money because he can't stop listening to Black Sabbath. I'm not fucking kidding! The government should fund me because I consider myself a Video Game addict. I think I'll call it Venatio Syndrome, Venatio being latin for games. See? Everyone's a victim! Or actually, that wouldn't be too bad - everyone in my house will be playing video games so we won't have to go to work because we'd be getting paid for having a disease. I say it is possible for the government to recognise this as a disease/disorder.

As for the rich bastard that don't wanna pay for an overdue book fee, that is probably the most classic example of greediness I have ever heard of, it could also be due to the fact that she's rich and probably never heard of this thing we call 'small change' for so long. Where did you hear of this?

Aug. 31, 2007 | 3:53 PM MindChamber responds:

haha wow dude, Ive never heard of those deseases, thats friggin insane.


Sep. 2, 2007 | 9:50 AM Rhinan says:

Wow. That's like, thinking big. But yes, greed should be counted as a disease. Greed is bad, and it's like an addiction, in my opinion. And addicting stuff like drugs and alcohol causes deseases too, right? That's why alcohol and drugs is in a certain way not good for people, and in some countries forbidden, in all ways, or just in the meaning of drinking in public, or selling, or consuming in general.

So, should any obvious sign of greed-causing items be forbidden? If I could think of one right now, I'd say yes. Well actually, I don't know any "items", but when people know about thinks like the fact that Bush only fought Irak for oil and stuff, they should forbid him, or however you say that (I'm not english), since that's obviously greedy, or the result of greed-causing stuff.

Holy shit where am I talking about? Oh for fuck sake, I am typing really confusing now, am I not? Lol.

Anyway, I wish you all a happy theory-bashing day!

// This should be a comment, not a journal of my own...


Sep. 3, 2007 | 9:15 AM onlydeathawaits says:

Is this thought of greed being a disease is taken from The Unseen's song "Greed Is A Disease",(a song speaking about how health care should be free), or was it thought of independently and this is just a coincidence?


Sep. 3, 2007 | 9:49 AM JonBro says:

This was a pretty nice rant. I didn't think it would make sense at first, but it does.

After reading this and talking to two people about it, for some reason, one disagees. They consider greed not to be a disease because it's not actually a PHYSICAL thing. They say obesity works as a disease since it's harmful to the body. Greed, to them, is just a sin. ...

Sep. 3, 2007 | 2:14 PM MindChamber responds:

Hmmm what about people with ADD? or OCD?

its not really physical. but it IS a disorder. hmm maybe its a Disorder?


Sep. 3, 2007 | 10:58 AM Xiaxx says:

Most people are thinking of big businesses bullying smaller ones and polluting the world as being greedy, but what people must realize is that those big businesses are not really people. Big corporations which are the most influential polluters are not owned by any one person since their ownership is traded via stocks on the stock market. Corporations have an legal obligation to their owners to make as much money as they possibly can, so if you call them greedy, then they're just obeying the law, for it would be illegal for them not to be greedy.

It's much more rare to hear of a single person causing such trouble and doing all this harm, because I don't think there is any one really rich individual who does not have a corporation making money for them.

I'm not sure if greed is a disease, but what you say does not back up your argument.


Sep. 3, 2007 | 5:10 PM GoddaM says:

Pleonexia! Yes! Thats waht they should call it!
This is all very true! The artistic community in it entirety is suffering a great loss thanx to this epidemic. This country is in danger!
You make some fantastic points! Everything that makes American culture American is directly attached to the pursuit of the almighty dollar, in some way or form. Even sacred events like Matrimony and Religious Holidays. It needs to stop, but how do you defeat the "illuminatis" of the world when their chief weapon is the subversion and manipulation of the populace by any means necessary?
BTW: I like your work! are there any comics or websites I should look for to see more? Peace.


Sep. 3, 2007 | 5:18 PM CoryLehan says:

I pretty much agree with you there.


Sep. 4, 2007 | 2:46 PM Cosmos8942 says:

Greed is in and of itself a fact and a life for many people. Some would say that greed is the ambition to make money, others would state that greed is indeed a problem but not a disease. What do I say? Its both, sure, you have to have some ambition in order to make a name for yourself, sure greed can and is a problem, but, is there really a way to stop it? Like cancer, greed grows and grows till it consumes the person, all unknowingly, to their doom. Why state that greed should be a disease, when as such it actually is considered so by many people. Sure I love money as much as anybody else, and sure if I could I would try to save everything I earn...but there is a difference between those that are greedy and those that just have substantial wealth...its how they spend it.

Wars are not started for money, they are started for political obedience in other areas of the world, as such do those wars esculate into a battle for cash and thus do the greedy fight the greedy. Like the circle of life, I can't say that this could ever be stopped or even slowed, greed is the materialistic materialization of humanity's need for survival at its most fragile. So thus does a person want more because they want it? Or is it that in their heads they 'need' it? As you probably know, greed startes out as a simple "I would like some of that", throw in a please and a thank you and you have a normal everyday transaction. Take that into consideration and throw on "Oh! I really liked that...I think I will have more." Soon that "more" turns into "give it to me!" and finally "nothing will stop me from having that." Greed is the personafication of ones conciousness unto the stuff that they wanted and thus needed.

In conclusion, we are greedy because we always want, we always want because we always want more, we always want more because we don't think we have enough, we don't think we have enough due to the fact that we generally have so little to begin with and we have so little to begin with because orginally we had no want until that one thing caught our eye. Greed cannot be classified as a disease as it is up to the individual to decide whether or not wanting more is something that they should consider. A disease is something that can easily travel, and greed is just a mental problem, not a health problem. Classification is all right and good...but a disease it is not, more like a virus that affects all around it, and destroy's the persons' ability to subjicate the truth of his or her actions regardless of what those actions maybe.

Ok...I am done rambling XD,
-AJ-


Sep. 5, 2007 | 2:43 PM Ragelfragel says:

I agree with you, MC. In my own opinion, and by my own experiences in my still-to-be-changing life, I think money can bring out the worst in people. People will be willing to do anything just in order to hold a shiny coin in their hand, or see their bank account with an eight digit number. I feel totally appauled by the fact people would go to such depths in order to make a bit of cash. I say greed is something which may never have been enhanced to such a level as it is today if it wasn't for money.

Maybe in a perfect reality, everybody has the same amount of money and nobody wants more. Sadly I doubt that'll never happen. What really pains me though is the fact that, people who play sports which are popular (football over here, baseball in America I guess) get money thrown at them, when we have poor people on the streets with no homes, who have live day by day hoping they'll make get a good meal. If we can afford to throw money at somebody for kicking a ball, can't we give some to homeless people? I get annoyed sometimes at how this world of ours works.

But then again, could greed be used to strive people to work more? Let's take a newspaper company for a local town. If you're the only newspaper company, you have no competition, therefore you won't produce what could be better material in your papers. Now let's say another newspaper company comes into the town. The first company now has competition for customers, therefore will attempt to do better to get more money... Or am I misinterpreting that altogether?

Neways, cheers for the read. I like reading stuff which makes me think a bit more.


Sep. 6, 2007 | 5:51 AM squeakytoad says:

I'm curious as to why you randomly capitalize letters in the middle of your sentences that are neither proper nouns, abbreviations, titles of honor, or any of the other commonly capitalized words.

As for your "essay", I believe all of us are greedy, just to different extents and desirous of different things. Some of us may be more greedy for money, and thus sell our characters and rights, whilst some of us are more greedy for fame (or perhaps dignity) and would like to do things our way.
Also, everyone has their monetary price. Perhaps you wouldn't give your characters up for $25k or even $250k, but I'm pretty sure if someone offered you $2,500,000 for them, you'd take it.
Regardless, greed is part of human nature. It's not like obesity, that is obtained through particular means, in this case consuming an excess of food and avoiding your treadmill.

Sep. 6, 2007 | 12:38 PM MindChamber responds:

Not an Essay but simply a rant.

The caps is simple a bad habit Ive obtained over the years, its my way of emphasizing a particular word, or hold on that word, as if it were a "beat" in a movie. Its something that I should avoid. I know. thanks for the nitpick tho.

as for your assumption of how much I would give up my characters for a price, well, you cant make that assessment, because you simply do not know me, If I was to lose complete control of my character I would not sell them period.

Greed maybe part of the human condition, but its not natural in any sense of the word. There aren't animals out there, that are greedy.
Also by your definition Greed is EXACTLY like Obesity. Its obtained to through particular means, unessessarily consuming/obtaining excess amounts of money.

also you cant be greedy for dignity, thats probably the dumbest and weakest statement, in your otherwise flawed, retort. Dignity is obtained through self worth, which is obtained through the giving of one self. Having Dignity is measured by your self worth through selfless acts. You can not be greedy with Selflessness.

lol.. dumbass

Updated: Sep. 11, 2007, 9:42 AM

Sep. 7, 2007 | 12:19 PM Streakydesign says:

mindchammer is my brother =^_^=

we go to family picnics and eat whipped potato salad!!

BUt i always forget it so it'll be sticks and mud instead =^_^=

*thought that would make you laugh.

Sep. 7, 2007 | 1:04 PM MindChamber responds:

yes, My SIsta Streaky!

I miss our family picnics, and potato salad wrestling, and slumber parties, with the pillow fights.. :(

good times..


Sep. 7, 2007 | 5:37 PM HeartbreakHoldout says:

I don't think greed should be considered a disease, because there are many negative character traits, and it would get out of hand if all of them were refined into being a disease.
It would make people be complacent having those negative character traits, since disease implies a lack of control or ability to control that trait. People can choose not to be greedy if they want to, but people with schizophrenia can't control their disease.
Also, at the end of the day, character traits are what make us all individual, and all of us have a little amount of greed in us. If there was no greed anywhere, then everyone would be selfless, and that would get annoying.


Sep. 8, 2007 | 8:27 PM ElementalSoldier says:

I often wonder why we fight wars and commit genocide over what basically is just dirt,and even worse to live happily or to even feed are selves we have to have large amounts of stupid green paper or gold which creates such greed in humans we would destroy another living being to obtain it,in the end whats this money going to get us in are short and insignificant lives?and I don't think its a disease but an innate human characteristics inside of us all, you are just lucky you have control over it,and well being fat is not really a disease either its just an excuse those fat fuckers made up for being lazy assholes,though you make a really good point,I'll have to take some time to contemplated this all.


Sep. 9, 2007 | 6:33 PM AlexJS says:

It's a disease, but most of the time, greedy actions are usually done on impulse and not properly thought out. Everyone want mountains of money, it's just a question of how far you'll go to get it.


Sep. 10, 2007 | 6:41 AM SkySausage says:

thats way too true... just hate greedy people dont you


Sep. 10, 2007 | 9:49 AM ghost001 says:

well i didnt read it all, but it looks like you did a great job on that, and no, greed is not a desease. its your impulses... i think.

Sep. 10, 2007 | 12:20 PM MindChamber responds:

entering a war for the sake of profit, is not an impulsive thing to do.


Sep. 10, 2007 | 3:07 PM DibbityDan says:

Well if they can call alcoholism a disease, they should be able to call greed a disease.


Sep. 13, 2007 | 7:12 PM TheSnakeSkull says:

People need to understand that there is greed in all of us, and you should stop fighting it.

Sep. 13, 2007 | 7:43 PM MindChamber responds:

alright cool.

so dont get mad when I mug you, alright?

cause I already have money, but I want more...

its ok tho,,, its just me being greedy and greed is in all of us.


Sep. 13, 2007 | 7:47 PM TheSnakeSkull says:

That's what greed can do to people.

Sep. 13, 2007 | 8:01 PM MindChamber responds:

glad to know you re so accepting of it.


Sep. 13, 2007 | 8:03 PM smicothegreat says:

i was banned for saying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SMICO RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sep. 13, 2007 | 9:10 PM MindChamber responds:

like this?

*bans user*

lolololololol


Sep. 13, 2007 | 9:13 PM stripes says:

y0 mindchamba


Sep. 17, 2007 | 9:23 PM Archangel-X says:

greed is greed, the biggest problem I see is that old adage "money begets money" the richer you are the easier it is to get richer (investing, buying/selling ect) I mean the end that most people seek IS the almighty dollar. The road you take there, name it; selling out, conning peeps out of it, just being a royal douche, is all the means to that one end. Very few can resist it, but in the end i would say the corruption money brings is not worth the price of admision......of course I'm pretty broke so that makes ME feel better :D capitalists be damned!


Sep. 23, 2007 | 1:04 AM Luis says:

i think not making a new post in so long is considered a disease.. you should get it looked at. FOR SERIOUS

Sep. 23, 2007 | 10:22 AM MindChamber responds:

ya I guess. :(

Updated: Sep. 23, 2007, 3:35 PM

Sep. 23, 2007 | 1:07 PM Swirling-Venom says:

Globalization will not succeed without the abolishment of distinction of creed and religion.

Sep. 23, 2007 | 3:34 PM MindChamber responds:

creed and religion need only be controlled by a single enitity. if people are stupid enough to believe their religion is superior to others then let them, it all flows to one establishment.

Kinda like when you grab a orange juice, because you are tired of cola roting your guts, only to find out its owned by soda companies anyway.


Sep. 23, 2007 | 7:27 PM Mizox says:

the greed built into the human mind is very odd, in that very few species have it, and of those creatures which do humans are the only ones to have it to such an extreme extent, where in our evolutionary history did it develop? why? agent smith is right, we are the only animals to live the way we do, instead of forming a natural equilibrium with our environment we move into an area and destroy and consume and take and take and take until there is nothing left, then we spread out and do the same thing to other areas, and when we inevitably run out of places to go we start doing it to one another, we live on destruction, our first impulse is to cause as much damage as possible, our so-called intelligence is more a way of settling petty rivalries than doing something constructive, nearly every technological advancement in human history was some sort of weapon, and those which weren't were because we were competing with someone else because we wanted to be better, we think we are intelligent, what we <i>really</i> are is just a more extreme level of stupidity, how did such a fundamentally evil species as ourselves survive for so long? how much longer can we survive? if we don't settle our differences with each other and the world around us, we'll be destroyed by one or the other, that's how it works, generally, greedy strains wipe themselves out, they kill off the local food supply and starve to death, thus rebalancing nature, but when we run out, we just spread somewhere else and keep on doing the same thing, we really are a virus, we certainly don't deserve to be the superior race we claim to be, yes, greed is a disease, and if we don't overcome it, it will destroy us, it has turned us into a virus, evil incarnate

...

why does the button in people's userpages which lets you view their flash/audio reviews not work?


Sep. 23, 2007 | 8:23 PM Lost-Wisdom says:

Is 72 your actual age? I'm just wondering.

Sep. 24, 2007 | 8:51 AM MindChamber responds:

are all you can draw stick figures at 16??

just wonderin'


Sep. 23, 2007 | 9:27 PM Jammer3 says:

Well greed is a emotion somewhat like a one of our senses. In a sense it is part of us therefore really it could not be a disease unless it was defined as a disease or disorder of oneself. Being greedy is a good thing in a way because in our history we used to lack things. Like racism everyone is racist because it would take too long to meet someone and determine who there are once you met them instead of guessing who they are. It would be like being born all over again. I will tell you actually that being greedy actually comes from lack of other emotions that overtakes you so sometimes filling gaps maybe love, friendship or some other things. Because we all know people that are cheap(greedy) but still good people.



Sep. 23, 2007 | 11:09 PM Swirling-Venom says:

I beleive in the same thing. Regardless, it doesn't stop people from drawing countless borders on all sorts of maps. Religion is globalizations biggest enemy for the simple fact that people beleive what they beleive and most of the time are willing to die for it. It is that stuck in there head.

Globalization would suck anyway, I find culture more exciting.


Sep. 24, 2007 | 12:04 AM nrenteria says:

Hey mindchamber you're going on my favorite flash author list =)


Sep. 24, 2007 | 12:50 AM FrozenSheep says:

Only if you consider disease greedy.


Sep. 24, 2007 | 9:26 PM wolfmaydie says:

I think its more of a mental thing.....


Sep. 25, 2007 | 7:43 PM zitler says:

That was beautiful Mindchamber. I'm glad you care about the environment.


Sep. 25, 2007 | 8:48 PM Mizox says:

you skip me :(


Sep. 26, 2007 | 9:05 AM KavinelZX says:

could turning into a complete faggot be considered a disease?????

Sep. 26, 2007 | 10:42 AM MindChamber responds:

I dunno, you would have to ask one of your local homos for that one.

good luck with that though.


Sep. 27, 2007 | 11:36 PM Mizox says:

is not responding to responses a disease?


Sep. 27, 2007 | 11:47 PM Mizox says:

I apologize for acting like a n00b and posting multiple responses and probably annoying the greatness that thou art, but i am of questionable sanity and cannot stop posting here for no apparent reason, I subject myself to your will! (to a certain extent, provided it isn't anything wierd)

Sep. 29, 2007 | 11:16 AM MindChamber responds:

shuddap


Sep. 29, 2007 | 3:06 PM RyanBoyce says:

Kekeke!! You said ASS!!1

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