why has the world come to this?

Whoever the in this massive exotic lands invented the Electric car, i salute thee

Do you still have to charge an electric car like every 20 miles?

45mph limit? Well, guess you can't have it all.

Have a nice day.

Electric cars are great. They never hear you coming, so you get combo-points easily.

We watched it in journalism. Kinda messed up how they'd only lease them, huh?

That car has frillz, watch out!

I'm all for the idea, by the way.

You think supporting a healthy enviroment is "bullshit"? I don't follow...

electric cars will take away from the oil companies, relinquishing all the money that builds our economy.

then electricity bills will go up, creating more power plants, specifically probably nuclear. then when someone drops a match our world will explode

I loved that movie. It was amazing. But you do know that they are making compressed air cars right? That's better than electric.

This one is sweet. Not to mention it looks like it came straight out of "The Jetsons."
http://www.aptera.com/index.php

forget elecrtic cars, WHAT ABOUT ELECTRIC LIGHTS. they have always been a con, i mean they break every other month. COWBOYS

I believe that at the moment cars powered by some sort of Hydrogen is very likely to happen. I saw that on Top Gear at least, and it showed petrol stations starting to put hydrogen as an option. It costs a little less than petrol and diesel, but its near limitless in supply and doesn't pollute. Don't know how realistic it is, or whether top gear where joking but it was along feature of it and Clarkson seemed pretty serious about it.

The oil companies only get away with this crap because they have the full support of the federal government and both major parties. We are living under a system of corporate socialism. Just look at the massive bailouts given to banks because they are "too big to fail." Subsidies, bailouts and protectionism for corporations at the expense of the people are the norm in Washington.

I hope that doesn't sound like a conspiracy theory. It is simply the reality of politics when you ignore the Constitution. When you let politicians do whatever they want, it goes without saying that they will serve the most powerful interest group.

Great. More little cars getting in my way on the road when I'm cruising around in my Gundam Zoid Hummer mobile >:C

I hope the have the horsepower.

I have one massive scepticism about the Electric Car. Yay, you don't have to use petrol, so that's good for the environment right?

Well, what do you do instead? Plug it in. Charge it up. What do you charge it up with? Electricity. Where does the electricity come from? Here, bitch: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia /commons/d/d6/Coal_power_plant_Dattel n_2_Crop1.png

But what about the electron fumes clogging up the atmosphere and causing a disco house effect?!

I heard about some come making an electric car thats only going to cost us about 5-10k to own.

But I think the fastest that could go was like, 40 mph.

We all have the solution in our hands....use bicycles O_O (or walk, and well if you want to travel across the world...mmh...buy some powerade)

But electric cars are sure great and useful !

My high school teacher made my classmates and me do a project on new fuel types for cars, and the electric car was by far the coolest.

There were several ideas being pitched in the industry on how to make the electric car more efficient for its user, such as installing a charger in the garage that keeps the car ready for use at all times or creating highway roads that send electric currents to the car to keep them running for longer distances.

Though the possibility of some of these ideas seemed next to nil, they were cool to think about.

The capitalists ALMOST killed the electric car, but it is on the rebound now, and it's late, but good! It may not be the best solution to the pollution and global warming problems, but it is a step in the right direction. With the Tesla Roadster and Chevrolet Volt, the whole image of electric cars being designed by blind monkeys is gone. An electrocar with Mitsu. Lancer X- looks and a low price may kick the hindquarters of the gasoline/diesel- powered lumps... And if scientists discover the secret to cold fusion or similar energy sources, the oil companies will eventually bite the dust etc. etc. Nice to know that you care about the world outside NG, too! ;)

Yeah, I saw it.
Pretty wild.

OdHero: Hydrogen fuelled cars are expensive to build and the slightest leak of hydrogen may cause a rather spectacular explosion...

for some reason the mas speed is even smaller in some states. my state is at 35. kind of a bummer since I use the highway alot and the max speed there is 50-55. still, this seems like a step in a good direction!

Why not propane?
It's clean, efficient, and cheap?

Electric cars aren't quite as effective yet.

yeah i saw this earlier this year during debate class when we were arguing about alternate fuel sources. i think it was GM that made the first prototype for an electric vehicle and then toyota, mitsubishi and everyone else tried to do the same. i find it amazing that it was the very companies that made the cars eventually took them away just to be rusted away in dumps or turned into heaps of scrap, while there was so much usefulness to them. well anyway its nice to know that someone else has seeen this amazing documentary!!

They're expensive now, but economics tells us that as soon as they catch on they'll be way cheaper.

Who killed the electric car?... Republicans. :P

Up here in Canada they've had electric cars for years. They distribute them in Ontario but the sad thing is, is that they're only LEGAL (wtf?) in British Columbia. You just plug it into any power outlet outside overnight and you drive it all day. The best thing about it is you can't hear a thing from it, it's so quiet.

who controls the british crown
who keeps the metric system down

yeah i have seen this before.
but in a powerpoint resentation.

Made me think humanity has no salvation.

Glad to see others have seen this documentary

I think rich people have better tastes then that. They're driving S Classes if anything. And sadly, I don't think one care make a big difference so just stay with gas for the next few decades.

im waitin for the Tesla to drop in price ... my main gripe with electric cars is they are so ugly. does no designer want to touch designing a good lookin electric car?

Too much research in the technology not enough on visual aesthetics.... theres no way im driving in that big green booger.

Anyone fancy a mass production hydrogen car.

http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clar ity/

I saw someone driving that car.

Anyone fancy a mass production hydrogen car.

http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clar ity/

You just LOVE helping the planet admit it.

I totally agree...

We'll never reach a Yutopia if big time companies keep holding back knowledge for the sake of money.

For the sake of safety maybe for the BIG ones like Stem-Cell Research.

But for the good of the whole world...phhtt....what a bunch of Bank Pigs.

I've seen that documentary! That thing really opened my eyes about CEOs and their need and want for money...Really wish that car had came out. Would have probably saved the environment and maybe helped us out in this economy. But at least stuff is commin' out now though!
Think about something though, you know how an electric car is basically wheels, axles, a battery, and a hull? That means dramatically less visits to the mechanic, and no more buying new, expensive engine parts for your car!
On the other hand, that does mean a lot of car part places and mechanics will be outta luck...which we don't need right now.
Man, how did we get stuck in this mess?

I watched this quite awhile ago...
So good...

I just want a superconductive material to be discovered that works at room temperature, so that all energy can used efficiently, and without pollution. But sadly... :(

yeah i saw that

I actually did a paper on this for college.

It's a damn shame.

I think we are going to see growth in electric car industries. Advancements in communication (internet *cough*) make it almost impossible for people to silence technology news like they used to.

But you're right, currently most electric cars are ass expensive..

I would love to get my hands on a Tesla Roadster

http://www.teslamotors.com/

*drool*

If that car had a vagina, I'd be all over that.

Very cool. I've always had an interest in finding creative energy sources.

Have you heard of microgeneration technology? It's using solar, wind, and various other energies to generate your own power. Houses and small buildings can be outfitted like this so that they actually produce all the energy they need. The interesting thing to note is that buildings that make more energy than they use in a month, instead of getting an electric bill, can actually get paid by the electric companies to put that extra power back onto the grid.

i've been wanting an electric car for a while now, but i haven't the money or the license to get one.

a 15 year old's allowance ain't gonna get me jack shit. i need a job.

Your Best Bet would be General Moters. They have oil company affiliates, and the electric car would be an obstacle for them, so they simply buy our the electric auto company and have the cars taken to a junk yard to be smashed.

If that doesn't work, I did, I killed the car. You catch it in bed with the miata when you're out working, well not any more. She was such a lying bitch.... :'(

Having an electric car would be great don't get me wrong but how do you charge it? I'm assuming you don't use 50+ AA's but do you charge it from a normal mains plug or a specialist adapter?

*motors
I didn't pay much attention to it, sorry. -_-'

Anything to get us off our dependency on foreign oil is a good thing.

And I disagree about the Human race not being able to alter the health of the earth on a catastrophic level.. I mean if we can breed new creatures, learn how to fly, and create weapons dangerous enough to level whole cities I say we have a lot to worry about and maybe we should be tree huggers.
You never know whatcha got til its gone.

'commuter car'=truth :D., I think that electric cars are absolutely perfect for city travel due to the their acceleration capabilities (they also use less energy accelerating) and the fact that in a city you never need to really go over 30 mph
but then they're pretty useless for long journeys, so its about a balance between petrol driven and electric capabilities as people dont want (or cant afford) to get two cars for different kinds of journey, hence the hybrid.

Dunno man, do you drive around much? theres not really any point having a car in london (public transports great) but I dont know what thats like where you are.

Sorry MindChamber to burst your bubble, but electric cars may die out all together thanks to honda, who have aparently saved the world with thier new hydrogen fuel cell car. Its on sale in california, as its the only place with a hydrogen fuel pump station in the world at the moment.
its like a family saloon, and isnt super expensive, so if electric cars want to compete in later years they will have to be dirt dirt cheap :P
if your wondering hydrogen costs about the same as petrol per gallon, and is the most abundant element in the universe so no chance of that running out .....

and the only emitions is water :)

hope my input helped out in some way

You should watch "Zietgiest : Addendum" It covers this in a small section and many other things, that wind power and underwater power and geothermo power can actually power all of Ameirca if it was implented, the only reason they don't is cause then they'd stop making so much profit. Sucks huh. Anyways,

No widescale technological cars will be sold everywhere till the last drop of oil is mined.

Very true words man. I'll definetely have to see it. Is it on DVD or in theatres currently?

Lol, Love Tesla (Kickass Guy!) Hmm... I'm only 13 right now, and I wonder what cars of the future are going to be like. But also on a side note think of all the problem it could cause, such as: if it charges via plug, water could cause problems, wouldn't charge at night if by solar, among other things. But hey, gas explode and tons problems happen already, and what do I know I'm just 13 (seriously what do I know about cars?) - Cool!

The issue around the EVs is cost, and that's why they are expensive. GM used lessons learned from the EV1 to help develop the Volt and it's E-Flex (not called Voltec) architecture., but it's still had to create new technology to make it possible. This includes helping to develop Lithium Ion batteries that are powerful and durable enough to last the life of the car. When the Volt goes on sale for the estimated $40,000, GM will still be selling it it at a loss. The price will come down as the price of manufacturing the equipment (particularly the batteries goes down.

I knew electric cars were around back then, but never looked in as far as why they stopped getting "produced". My thinking was "Well, gas was cheap then. Why would anyone need to be an electric car at that time?"

However, I'm also aware that big companies HAVE been known to purchase pattens, only to never use them and to make sure no one else could use them. Why? because it could jeopardize there current standings.

So much for self improvement.

In my opinion, without doing any research on this, or asking many people, America is a country run by dumb as fuck rich people who keep all there money to themselves or real smart evil rich people who spend money to take over and rule the world.... This has everything to do with your topic. I thought it did anyway. Hmm.

It was supposed to be about Gas keeping this Country in power and thats why 911 happend and why we went to war in Irac. Dumb stuff like that.

But again, hmmm.

RB

Ya, I have no concerns about the environment, not so much that we CAN'T fuck it up so much as there are so many people questing to fix it that the problem will be fixed in no time at all (on a relative scale). I'm so confident we won't destroy the environment that I'm more concerned about the next ice age.

because fuck rich people.

Your are right, but I've been told that the energy wasted to make a new car is worth 7 years of driving a normal gas car. So your almost taking a step back if you have a decent cr to start with.

I would fuck that car.

UNPH UNPH UNPH

If we could manage to find a more efficient way of using electrolysis (or an entirely different technique) to make hydrogen fueled cars that would be the best, seeing as it IS the simplest molecule. The energy problem is by far the most important and is being overshadowed by the propaganda of environmentalism. I've always found it interesting that all the potential energy the sun gives to the earth in one day is more than what we could possibly use in a year. And for the environmentalists, it is bullshit. The human race only outputs 3% of the yearly carbon dioxide emissions. If you want to do something good with the environment go cork a volcano.

There was also this guy whos name was....something Kline... I don't remember but theres this video of how he turned water into fuel for cars, it all started with a water powered weilder but the metal part of the torch was only warm to the touch even tho it could go thru basically any metal in seconds. So he harvasted this power and made it fuel and car and apparently can go 100 miles on one gallon of water. I'm sure if this new report is true, the gas companys would swoop it right up, pay the guy off and put it on the shelf to be never heard of again.

Cheap electric cars everywhere except the US? Don't be dreaming now, they still can't compete in terms of pricing at all, lack of quantity buyers, I hope they get somewhere though, the oil has been running wild for too long already, it's no future.

I hear that video killed the electric car.
Or was that the radio star?
I'll get back to you on this one...

That's interesting to hear. However, I'm more curious about what Hydrogen Fuel Cells can do. People have been talking about it for a while, and there was even a news story where people were saying Bush almost got blown up by one. Idk if it can happen, or if it's something big oil thought up, but yeah, we need to get away from oil. Idc if the oil gurus go broke, I hate how our country is being bought out by the corporation and hope that one day their tyranny will end... And I'm an environmentalist, because basically there's only one Earth, and if it dies, we die...

A lot of people use hybrids nowadays.

whats wrong with being a tree-hugger? why has that titled become an insult? asshole

No, I haven't.

I KILL ALL CAR IN THE WORLD! @#%@#!!! MInd chamber mind to chamberrr....
im ecolo because im ecolo-teen O^<

I think it was a comedian sajfavjvevDANECOOKbakfef who thought it was gay so there is cause and effect (i am so late to comment on this)

Now how ecologically sound is the MC Bot hmmm?

i hate it when people leave some faggy comment then end it with "have a nice day". Electric cars are bound to take over, once it's gone there won't be many better options than electric.

About a year ago, I was quite of a tree hugger, on 2007 I went to that green peace "Save teh Whales" convention, being a little eleven year old, I could already recognize the smell of marihuana, yes, the hippie stereotype IS real...

Anyways, I have heard about those cars, but they´ve only read about them in internet news articles, but I do know about that documentary, as I´m quite a fan of documentaries, specially the "Intelligent" ones, not the ones about Bigfoot, Ghosts, or Chupacabra. Another very interesting documentary is Zeitgeist, in spite of the fact that some parts are quie exagerated, as they STATE some theories are an actual fact, but besides from that, it´s a very good movie, if you keep your mind functioning while watching it and don´t get convinced for every single word about it...

I saw the documentary, I got it on my psp.

Oil companys destroy our enviroment just to get some money.

I can't say i've seen that,living in a different country and all XP.

I've heard that honda have come up with a hydrogen powered electric car.I think it converts hydrogen into water creating electricity in the proccess or something.So no waiting ages for it charge.

Electric cars are a complete false economy, for one the weight of technically two engines in the car makes it extremely inefficient at using all that "electric power", the reason i saw it like that is because once you put your foot down a bog standard petrol engine kicks in giving you pathetic MPG figures, infact a test on top gear shows driving a BMW M3 and a Toyota prius around a race track at approx. Same lap times showed the BMW to be more fuel efficient, and that means in the long run giving less of your money to the oil companies.
I believe the future is hydrogen cars, with short fuel times (electric cars overnight WTF), no reliance on petrol, and stations already appearing in the US its a sure bet for the future.

Sorry for the poor punctuation my English is shite.

Planning on being green Mr. Jose?

To be completely honest, a few months ago our science teacher showed us this film. It was actually quite interesting.

Its better than nuclear...

Who killed the electric car? is a great film and it pissed me off royally... GM deserves whatever they get.

Being in a location with 2 feet of snow on my front yard I want a car that defrosts itself, has spiked tires, and can generate enough heat to clear my entire driveway of snow.

When are those models coming out?

Tesla is amazing, he's one of my hero's

you know ive heard about this long ago and now i see it here today while we on this subject in fact i noticed you didnt mention the most important thing in this post
THE FUCKING CAR IS REALLY A TRANSFORMER

I will eat ur soul, brutha.

Tesla made a wireless light bulb able to be used miles away from its source, so I think there's a rule somewhere that if you don't like the guy you are a dick.

Yeah I saw that quite a while ago; pissed me off quite a bunch as I'm sure you can imagine. I try to bring it up as much as I can in RL, but it just doesn't stick as well as that whole documentary.

Shit sucks, and I'm too drunk right now to really be as angry as I should be. Well I mean, I COULD be a raging drunk, but no one wants that ;P

What does Mind chamber mean?

how can a chamber mind?
how do i shot web?
how does ice freeze?
how is tyrone not the father of shannanas baby?

KKKKKK! Contra outra MindChamber! lol desliga conta isso pro didi

Actually sir in Oregon Portland there are still some electric cars and you can charge them for free. Have a nice day

They are testing nuclear fusion systems in California right now. If they can get the system to work, we'll have cheap electricity without the horrific by products that are nuclear waste and we can forget about oil altogether. And if that happens, the West can change it's foreign policy and not have to focus on the middle East and Eastern European oilfields.

I really hope it works, but I bet there are whole armies of sabateurs ready to throw a spanner in the works - cheap electricity would be anathema to certain powerful parties

right on years ago i was like" just make eletcric cars you fucks". I love futuristic stuff like the next man. we'll buy anything shiny and computerized:D so just make it

electric cars run on coal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!

i want a nuclear powerd car... wouldn't it be great 30 years of fuel.. hehe

This is completely related to Zeitgeist: Addendum. Don't you think?

Electric cars or not... The world is still going to blow up. The air is full of pollution and we're already reached the limit of pollution this world can take. The only thing we can do to save ourselves is go to another planet or if we survive on this earth then everything would rely on electricity, no fuel, no gas... nothing.... but still these cars are great, their design is kinda sweet too :)

Id rather have an elitric helicopter.

Taking the Tesla Roadsters components (and assuming retrofiting it so it works on a helicopter) and modred Li-Po Batteries it could actuly fly for 5 min. 10 years later, itll be up there.

Nice documentary dude.

I have to wonder if an electric car would be of any use at all in northern climates. I big part of the combustion engines appeal comes from the fact that you can heat the compartment you sit in.

These cars do seem to mostly come out of the south west. I'm not all sure they have everyone's interests in mind.

Who holds back the electric car?

Who makes Steve Gutenberg a star? We do! We do!

Who robs cavefish of their sight?

Who rigs every Oscar night?

We do! We do!

GOD BLESS YOUS STONE CUTTERS!

I saw that movie and got angry and conservatives and corporations. Then I watched The Daily Show and felt better.